And there was something about the rating that took all of the subjectivity and the uncertainty about do I need to listen to this feedback out of the equation and made me realize this is not good enough.Īnd ever since then, I have loved a quantitative rating. And, and secondly, and maybe even more importantly, it, I guess it takes me back to my, you know, my wannabe athlete days when I was a diver.Īnd there, there were moments when I'd come out of the water and my coach would tell me, you know, two or three corrections and I'd get a little defensive, but if he said four and a half, like, whoa, that's a long way from a 10, tell me what I can do better. You won me over on that because originally when you said you didn't like the five-star system, I thought, well, first of all, I'm a social scientist. ![]() Is this book good? But like, should I go to this doctor? Should I take this medication? All of those things have huge amounts of five star scale reviews and I do think that they can tell us something, that they just can't tell us everything. And so I wanted to play with that because while I think the five star scale is somewhat ludicrous, it's also become indispensable. Yeah, there is something really weird to me about the way that the five-star scale has kind of taken over a qualitative analysis because it isn't for people. And in doing that, maybe even embracing the very style of communication, you've come to loath in the systems we use. I thought it was such a clever way to write a book and the format of a review. And for me, that meant writing a series of extremely in-depth Yelp reviews about plague and penguins of Madagascar.ĭiet Dr. And I wasn't paying that kind of careful sustained attention, that really for me, is the way toward hope and wonder and joy. I just, I was kind of letting the information flow happen very passively in my life. And I read this moment where she says “Pay attention to what you pay attention to if you want to know what to do with your life.”Īnd I realized that I had not been paying attention to what I was paying attention to. Uh, you know, I didn't know what I really wanted to do for work really for the first time, since I was 22.Īnd then as I started to get better, I re-read the work of my friend named Amy Cross Rosenthal, who had died a few months earlier. And I was just in bed alone with my thoughts, unable to read or play with my kids or do anything else.Īnd I was thinking back to other projects I'd worked on over the years, and this was also in a weird transitional time in my life and I didn't really know what I wanted to do with my life after that. And um, as a result of that, I couldn't open my eyes really for, for two or three weeks. I had this disease called a Labyrinth Titus. Well, it started out for me with this long period of being really sick. I would love to start with how you decided to turn what was originally podcast work into a book and how you got the idea to, to write a book of reviews effectively. I mean, it's a little bit of a pretentious word to start with, so I try to pronounce it in the most like flat, normal way possible. Or some people say the Anthropocene but that's just, that feels a little pretentious to me. Part of me that wants to call it the Anthropocene. So if you want to kind of stake out new ground, feel free to pronounce it a different way. That's how I say it, but I'm not, I'm not sure that it's standardized yet. Is the correct pronunciation The Anthropocene Reviewed? So I couldn’t wait to get him to review a few things with me. He reviews them all on a five-star scale. He covers topics ranging from the human capacity for wonder and the plague to office air conditioning and Googling strangers to Monopoly and Penguins of Madagascar. John’s book is a brilliant analysis of some of the most monumentally important- and some of the most charmingly trivial- touchstones of our time. The anthropocene is the geological period of time also known as now, when humans are dominating the Earth. It’s based on his podcast by the same name. Last month, he released his first nonfiction book: The Anthropocene Reviewed: Essays on a Human-Centered Planet. He’s also a longtime YouTuber and podcast host. John is best known for his heart-stopping novel The Fault in Our Stars. I'm John Green and I am here in my basement in Indianapolis, Indiana. Today, I’m talking to one of my favorite authors. ![]() My job is to think again about how we work, lead, and live. ![]() Welcome back to Taken for Granted, my podcast with the TED Audio Collective.
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